A little friendly iPhone vs Android Banter

The following is an excerpt from a recent email thread. The names have been changed to protect the ignorant.

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iPhoneLuvR:

Wow. And you guys are okay with this?

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/09/some-android-apps-found-to-covertly-send-gps-data-to-advertisers.ars
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AndroidLuvR1:

Sure. I don’t frequent strip clubs.

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AndroidLuvR2:

When you install an application on Android, it actually lists what it
can do. If the app doesn’t list GPS access, it can’t read GPS data. So
if you install an application that isn’t supposed to use GPS, it won’t
be able to do that. If the app does list GPS access, you have to
decide whether you trust the application.

I don’t see how that’s any different from iPhone, except that iPhone
doesn’t give you that list up front.

http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone+malware&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US346

And it’s not like Steve Jobs is doing code review on those apps, you know.
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AndroidLuvr2:

Oh, and having a phone feature that works is a bonus, too. Or so AndroidLuvr1 tells me.

Oh, and I hear you may be able to actually install Google Voice soon.
Maybe you’ll get decent free built-in navigation and voice recognition
soon too. Or maybe not. The iPhone does currently have a significant
edge in the vital fart app market, though.

One other big difference I forgot to mention. Up until iOS 4 you
really couldn’t run malware on the iPhone effectively due to its lack
of multitasking.
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iPhoneLuvr:

lol. I miss how spun up you get.

Sorry. But I don’t trust a device where the individual app developers decide what they believe “security” and “privacy” mean.

And for the record my iPhone makes calls. Most of the time.
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AndroidLuvr2:

I am a zealous fighter in the everlasting war against stupidity. But
it’s a lot of work.

> Sorry. But I don’t trust a device where the individual app developers decide
> what they believe “security” and “privacy” mean.

Uh, so you clearly don’t install any apps from the App Store, right?
Because again, they’re not doing code reviews there. They simply
respond to problems after they happen, and they don’t let you access
unpublished APIs. But as more and more APIs get published, there’s
more functionality to take advantage of.

Also, the Android Market is free of this kind of fraud, since it
doesn’t have the same kind of one-stop purchase validation as Apple:

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Apple-ejects-vendor-following-App-Store-security-problems-1034034.html

But I guess that finding a thousand-dollar charge on my credit card
bill isn’t a big deal compared to a phone app sending someone my
location or phone number.

Or maybe Steve Jobs was right in the first place, before he introduced
the app store and the bright future was supposed to be web apps.

> And for the record my iPhone makes calls. Most of the time.

Let’s play a little word game here: imagine yourself saying “And for
the record I can get an erection. Most of the time.” Would you be
satisfied with that level of performance?
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AndroidLuvr1:

Oh, I never had very few problems _initiating_ calls.

Finishing them was a whole other matter entirely.

Oh, one other thing iPhoneLuvr –

Your mother dresses you funny.
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iPhoneLuvr:

You are a zealot, that’s for sure. Sometimes I forget that you will reply to each and every email… until the end of time… forever. Debating you is a battle of attrition, but fortunately, not a battle of wits. 😉

They review Apps for purpose and behavior. And at least they have *some* kind of a vetting process. Android has…… nothing. Free market, yes, but you are on your own. Its like the Thunderdome of app development. That must make you Blaster… “Who run Thunderdome??”

You need to reread that article. Exactly WHAT governing body will warn a user of fraud on the Android? None.

And Leave my virile erections out of this.

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iPhoneLuvr > AndroidLuvR1

Listen “me too”, when we want to hear the monkey speak we’ll start the organ. In the mean time sit on the corner and hold out that tin cup.

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AndroidLuvR1 > iPhoneLuvr

See now I’ve been meaning to call you to schedule a lunch together, but figured your phone would just drop the call before I had a chance to relay the information.

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iPhoneLuvr:

Leave a message monkeyboy. I’d be happy to meet you for lunch.

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AndroidLuvR2 > iPhoneLuvr

> You are a zealot, that’s for sure. Sometimes I forget that you will reply to
> each and every email… until the end of time… forever. Debating you is a
> battle of attrition, but fortunately, not a battle of wits. 😉

You are clearly the master debater.

> They review Apps for purpose and behavior. And at least they have *some*
> kind of a vetting process. Android has…… nothing. Free market, yes, but
> you are on your own. Its like the Thunderdome of app development. That must
> make you Blaster… “Who run Thunderdome??”

“Steve Jobs doesn’t like it” isn’t a process.

And it’s Master who says “Who run Thunderdome?”

> You need to reread that article. Exactly WHAT governing body will warn a
> user of fraud on the Android? None.

No, apparently YOU need to reread the article. The Android Market
doesn’t work the same way as iTunes. You give iTunes your billing
info, and that’s it. So, if I compromise your iTunes login, I can buy
stuff. I don’t need your phone or your computer. I just need your
login. The Android Market doesn’t work that way. And even if it did,
there aren’t hundreds of thousands of items that can be purchased
through it – there’s just apps. If you want music, you use something
else, like Amazon.

> > But I guess that finding a thousand-dollar charge on my credit card
> > bill isn’t a big deal compared to a phone app sending someone my
> > location or phone number.
>
> Reread the article.

Right. Well, there are tons of people who’ve been defrauded through
iTunes for thousands of dollars. There are zero people who’ve been
defrauded through the Android Market, for zero dollars. I realize math
and reading comprehension aren’t your strong suits, but try to keep
up!

> Leave my virile erections out of this.

If your standards for virile erections match your standards for
phones, I suspect the mailman’s made some extra deliveries to your
house.

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iPhoneLuvr:

>>You are clearly the master debater.

I am when I’m alone.

>> “Steve Jobs doesn’t like it” isn’t a process.

Blasphemy.

>> And it’s Master who says “Who run Thunderdome?”

I know. It was an insult, Blaster. We all know know who the Master on your back is. There’s even a little resemblance… lol

>> Right. Well, there are tons of people who’ve been defrauded through
iTunes for thousands of dollars. There are zero people who’ve been
defrauded through the Android Market, for zero dollars. I realize math
and reading comprehension aren’t your strong suits, but try to keep
up!

You don’t know that. The Droid09 app may or may not have been caught before fraud took place. Since the Android is less newsworthy who knows what additional fraud may silently be taking place.

And my reading comprehension is excellent. My spelling is what sucks

>> If your standards for virile erections match your standards for phones, I suspect the mailman’s made some extra deliveries to your house.

I was wondering why my kids have red hair. Damned gingers!

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